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Old 2006-05-24
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Default Confusion over new UTM products

We're currently running NG R55. We've been planning an upgrade to NGX (well, not so much planning, as thinking, "We should probably do this").

And then, with great timing, one of my coworkers saw this "UTM" product. We read through the whitepaper, and thought it sounded like a great add-on. A day later, the NGX product is no longer listed (though there are links to it *everywhere* on their site, it's not actually listed as one of their products).

Is VPN-1 UTM the replacement for NGX? Where does VPN-1 Power fit in (it doesn't seem to include many of the features of VPN-1 UTM)?

I haven't yet figured out what the upgrade path is or should be. We're a small-to-mid-sized company, but we need high-availability. We'd like as much security as possible from the checkpoints, but it seems their "Enterprise" product (VPN-1 Power) doesn't have the security features of their UTM products?

And then, everything refers to R55, R60, and R61. How do these fit in with their product names?

I hate to sound like a newb, but I'm all confused.
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Old 2006-05-25
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Default Re: Confusion over new UTM products

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We're currently running NG R55. We've been planning an upgrade to NGX (well, not so much planning, as thinking, "We should probably do this").

And then, with great timing, one of my coworkers saw this "UTM" product. We read through the whitepaper, and thought it sounded like a great add-on. A day later, the NGX product is no longer listed (though there are links to it *everywhere* on their site, it's not actually listed as one of their products).

Is VPN-1 UTM the replacement for NGX? Where does VPN-1 Power fit in (it doesn't seem to include many of the features of VPN-1 UTM)?

I haven't yet figured out what the upgrade path is or should be. We're a small-to-mid-sized company, but we need high-availability. We'd like as much security as possible from the checkpoints, but it seems their "Enterprise" product (VPN-1 Power) doesn't have the security features of their UTM products?

And then, everything refers to R55, R60, and R61. How do these fit in with their product names?

I hate to sound like a newb, but I'm all confused.
Actually, it's not just newbies that are confused; we all are. What's shown on Check Point's web site appears to be little more than marketing hype with very few facts, even in the datasheets. There seems to be a disconnect between the marketing people who come up with the product names and the programmers who come up with the products.

Even the resellers I know complain that it's all confusing now.

Sorry I don't have more answers; I'm waiting for Check Point to clarify things.
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Old 2006-05-25
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Default Re: Confusion over new UTM products

IMHO
UTM and Power are only new names for old products (ooooh, it's marketing).
NGX will be NGX - it's name of product's version (it's software's names).

From CP presentaion about UTM:
Express and Express CI will be UTM
Pro with SecureXL will be Power
UTM and Power will be UTM Power
Edge will be UTM Edge
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Old 2006-05-25
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Default Re: Confusion over new UTM products

Yup you got it, its mostly repackaging and marketing.

Add in a few new license combos and AV to Pro Gateways
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Old 2006-05-26
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Default Re: Confusion over new UTM products

...and it needs NGX R61 in any Case...
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Old 2006-06-12
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Default Re: Confusion over new UTM products

I was told the devices and licensing stays the same, they just called them UTM now because of the included Anti Virus protection (should you wish to use it).
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Old 2006-06-20
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Default Re: Confusion over new UTM products

UTM because Checkpoint is jumping on the Unified Threat Management bandwagon that everyone seems to be going crazy for. It's kinda sad to see checkpoint trying to compete with Watchguard and the like :)
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